![]() No cross dowel or other measures are necessary. Especially on the rails use a long screw (at least 2 inch) and they hold fine. You have to mortise the headboard, footboard, and the ends of the rails for the fasteners but it is pretty easy once you make a router jig to do most of the cutting. They are totally hidden when the bed is assembled. ![]() Rockler calls the something like "heavy duty wrought steel bed rail fastners". I wish I could post a link but I can't get this computer to do that with the touchpad. There is only one of these beds that does not have the bed rail fasteners I like, after trying several options including bolts as you describe. I have 4 beds in my house I built and one of my kids has two, the other has three. I don't do any sleek modern stuff, so there's always been a way to add a good looking bolt cover, either a cast brass/bronze one or a wooden one I've made. Perhaps really high quality hanger hardware will do OK for you. Sorry, I don't know a great way to accomplish what you want. The strength (and ability to retighten whenever needed) of a through bolt with even a short tenon is hard to beat. I've had bad luck overall with threaded inserts (even ones that are epoxied in) and really wouldn't use them where there are structural stresses. The ones I use are like this: with the nut captured in the rail and a hole that penetrates the post to draw the M&T tight. I'm assuming the advantage of a bed bolt is that it pulls the rail into the post?No idea what an Amish bed bolt is- Google came up empty for me. Have you ever used or seen concealed bed bolts, Amish bed bolt as an example, where I wouldn't have to drill a hole all the way through the post and having the bolt exposed ( I could hide it as you suggested). ![]() Will the inserts hold just as well in an edge or do they need to be installed in the face ? Thanks for any suggestions. Thus the inserts would have to be installed on the edges of the 1 1/4" oak that make up the posts. Do you think the bolts/inserts will pull the rail into the posts together snug enough ? Also, since the posts have 2 vertical glue lines I prefer they aren't on the front side. I didn't want to use bed bolts because I didn't want any bolt heads showing. I was then going to attach them with inserts installed in the posts and then running the bolts through the face of the rails. This is not a mortise but a cutout so the inside face of the posts and rails are flush. I was going to rout out the inside edge of the posts a 1 1/4" x 8" cutout. The rails are 1 1/4" x 8" and the post are 3 pieces of 1 1/4" glued together thus 3 3/4" square. I'm building a king size bed frame, out of white oak, for the first time and thinking about attaching the rails to the posts using 3/8" thread inserts.
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